Not really, but it makes a good story.. And it works for America, so hey why not?
#import rant
Something I found rather interesting, is how the Nazi officers aprehended after World War II were treated, in contrast to how U.S. officers who did near the same thing in more recent years.
Being not of American origin i'm always looked down upon, as is my Motherland here in the U.S. just because most are close-minded.
Getting to my main point here though. At the Nuremberg Trials the 24 captured Nazi officers were put on trial for "Unspeakable Crimes Against Humanity." The Officer's rebutle was that they were just following their orders, regardless of their personal opinion. This was true in most cases because during the take over by the Nazi party, and 10 to 1 you were given 2 options, and one involved a gun against your head. Many didn't agree with what they were going to the people during the Holocaust, but they went along with it; the majority of nazi troops were under the influence of drugs such as cocaine and heroin, thus helping them stay awake all hours of the day and night, as well to help them tolerate the horrendus task they were assigned to do.
Hearing the Nazi's officers side of the story changes things doesn't it? Not really, you know why? Their German, and according to Allied propaganda all things German are EVIL!
With this trial helped derive the Geneva Convention, which ultimatly made it clear to all that in war you are responsible for your own actions. This new found principle used the Nuremburg Trials to make an example and to make itself known, though not all of the officers were sentenced to death the appearent message was clear.
Moving to more present day~ Well kinda.
::Vietnam::
U.S. Generals were given orders to move into the villages and destroy all resistance they encoutered. Interpretted to wipe everything from the ground up -- burning, destroying, pillaging, leveling, killing and obliterating everything they came across. So many innocents were killed in this sense-less war, at the hands of both United States and Northern Korea.
::Middle East::
Less in more recent years, but still present in military history was the same type of thing but in nations like Iraq and Afghanistan. The U.S. was to move in and clean up towns, but in some occasions this included the killing of innocent men - women - and children as a "safety precation."
These men who carried out the orders to shoot on sight, taking down civilians as well; how are they different from thos 24 Nazi officers who were put on trial at Nuremburg? In a sense of magnitude, some would argue it is not to the magnitude of that in which the Holocaust was, or some may argue that they had a 'just cause' because they were don't what was right, more or less what the were ORDERED to do. Don't you think that just because you don't like someone they are not a person? A human being just like yourself? Don't they have beleifs as well? Maybe they thought what they were doing was right, or maybe they were just following orders.
A life is a life, innocent blood shed is a sad factor of conflict, but isn't one life equal to all those thousands who we're killed wrongly in previous happenings? We know that the men who did run these missions and murdered those innocent people were not put on trial, but decorated with military honor. Maybe it should have been someone else that need be judged that day, but it wasn't. I personally think that maybe the U.S. so called "War Heroes" should be put on trial for their murders.. but hey thats just my opinion, what do I matter?
I'm not a Nazi, so don't call me one, I just think that the officers tried at Nuremburg were given an unfair trial. There is an answer that is so simple behind all of this that always rules true in politics though it may not true in reality and that is "America is never wrong or at fault, regardless of events that have taken place."
Well.. i'm glad i got that out of my system, I just hope that someone feels the same way i do about that.
Something else that annoyed me.. more than severly. In the U.S. history books, the Battle of Stallingrad is always looked at as a hopeless struggle that the Russians barely pulled out of.. thats wrong all wrong. It was planned that they we're going to let the Nazi army come in and take over parts of Stallingrad, letting them get over-zealous as they waited for winter. While the Russians were waiting for the Nazis to arrive they moved all of the war supplies out of the city, and destroyed what factories they could before their arrival. THIS WAS PLANNED! There was no final push for survival, when the winter hit, the Nazis were completely unprepared, as the Red Army surrounded Stallingrad, cutting off all supplylines into the city, and starved the Nazi Army out, moving in at the same time wiping them out~ So don't play it off as Russia being weak, we made the push back to Berlin afterall while the other Allied forces sat out to prevent casualties. U.S. forces and the Red Army met up at the river outside of Berlin, then making the final advance into the German capital after Russia had destoryed the city's defenses. Everyone had their part in World War II, there was no super hero, so get over it America.
#rant.exit
Alright.. so i'm done with that.. Today.. wasn't a very good day, chest pains and such. Along with competing against the RMT in FFXI to farm some freaking Boyhada Moss and Tree Cuttings, there are 23 spawn points in the area.. SHARE! Spring break approaches.. I need something to do, getting my Thf to 75 is a must regardless of events that may take place.
What i would really like ...is a hug. Honestly that would make all my problems go away for today, or hearing someone mew, that would be cute. <3>
War and politics are something I have never cared to understand... They are full of people who are "mightier than thou" attitudes and no one is right. Everyone is wrong. I agree with you for the most part and I can very much understand where your coming from. I actually had the same exact views as you did not very long ago. At least regarding the wars in the middle east. I still hold my opinion that its wrong. That we should not have gone there to instigate and provoke another country or countries. The part that I'm not so sure I agree with in your rant is the part that I've heard one of my best friends state as a man in the marines that had to serve in the middle east as a engineer. He never had to make the hard decision of who is innocent and who is a threat, though he did tell me a number of times there were close calls. How young boys would approach him or his company or team or whatever they are called and they were not sure the intentions of that young child. If he was sent with a bomb strapped to his back or if the little guy was just curious. He told me his point of view and how nervous and how bad things could have been. You can never tell intentions of people and some take "precautions" against the unknown. I'm not saying its right, but I have heard and can at least understand their position in it all.
ReplyDeleteI'm not defending the american people. At least not all of them. I'm more of a pacifist than anything but I can't judge people at war. Not on any front or anyone with any faction. I will hopefully never have to experience first hand and find out for myself what its like to be in another country and have strange people approach me. But what I do understand is not everything is so cut and dry. Not so black and white. There is no easy choice in war and given myself in any of those situations... I couldn't say for myself I would choose any action different from anyone else. I hope I would never have to have a chance to make that choice because there is no easy answer.
but all in all...
Why so Serious?
*HUGS* and Mew =P
Its early and hope I'm awake enough to make sense and that I got the point I wanted to make across... >.> maybe I'm just ranting to your rant?
Oh well either way
~teh Squire~
I agree with you for the most part hun, that there is no easy choices or a 'right' in war, personally i don't like it at all. I was just speaking on how i felt that people were punished for just following orders, though if the Nazis had won the war, they would have been decorated in honors. Anyways... Why so.. not serious? o.O
ReplyDelete*huggles* thank you ^^
Why so... agreeable? lol
ReplyDeleteWhy so.. er.. American? x3
ReplyDelete>< like I can help where I'm born and raised! I say that was a low blow and you are disqualified from this arena! >.> cause I have those sort of powers over an unwinable argument... if you could even call it that... <33
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